Re: [Native Gardening] Herbicides in the environment/ Re: A little perplexed.

 

Frank is right. Any community college environmental biology class teaches that it is fertiliser run off that causes the massive dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico.  And by the way...anything you use on your lawn or plants is a chemical.  There is no such thing as a non-chemical fertiliser or pesticide.  Even if it's vinegar. It's not so much the glyphosate that is harmful...it's the inert ingredients, one of which is a suspected carcinogen.  The thing is...is that the public can't buy straight glyphosate. We can't even buy it's big brother, Rodeo, which is safe for use near water.   

 

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From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@yahoo.com>
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 31, 2012 7:49:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Herbicides in the environment/ Re: A little perplexed.

 

Those dead zones are the result of pollution due to fertilizer run off. Phosphorus which is a nutrient in all fertilizers, moves readily through the soil and into our storm water sewers where it eventually ends up in our waterways and here in the Midwest, the Mississippi river watershed. Phosphorus causes huge algae blooms which as it grows and then decomposes, absorbs oxygen in the water which kills not only fish but all other macroinvertabrae. Glyphosate is not a nutrient. I'm not going to get in a debate over organic versus natural remedies for controlling weeds as if one can control weeds in their own yard without the use of chemicals, I say go for it but herbicides are an important tool in restoring habitats and ecosystems on a vast scale ( several acres ) besides the fact they're more efficient, cost effective and the means justifies the end result. Frank  We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac --- On Thu, 3/29/12, firekeeper38 <firekeeper38@yahoo.com> wrote: From: firekeeper38 <firekeeper38@yahoo.com> Subject: [Native Gardening] Herbicides in the environment/ Re: A little perplexed. To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 29, 2012, 1:12 PM   Monsanto is pretty notorious for "Gaming the system" on those tests, but in fact there HAVE been plenty of studies that it is not safe at all; http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoservices/pesticidefactsheets/toxic/glyphosate.htm It is also contributing to the rapid spread of organisms that are now Glyphosate-resistant and is showing a pretty strong connection, due to it's water solubility, to the dead zones in our gulfs and oceans. In spite of Monsanto's legal army and money the claims about it's environmental safety have been overturned in several courts here and overseas. Yours, Pego --- Secondly there is no scientific evidence that Glyphosate has any negative impact on the soil or soil life as its used extensively by all natural area managers without any noticeable negative impacts. > Frank

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