Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

I'm in total agreement of that. I live in Michigan where many of the plants you mentioned thrive. The trillium is actually our state flower or was at one time, I think it still is.

From: Benia <xsarenkax@yahoo.com>
To: "nativegardening@yahoogroups.com" <nativegardening@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

I never meant to plant TREES, just native plants.  Native geranium, ferns, mayapples, trillium, jack-in-the-pulpit, virginia waterleaf, etc.  Whatever works best, but the key suggestion is to eliminate the turf grass challenge altogether in favor of easy to grow native plants.

Benia

From: Aunt Hilda <daveantcliff@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

I hope I'm not taken for being rude here, but wouldn't planting more trees under a huge dead leaf provider make for more work, i.e. raking, etc? I would plant shade loving hostas and either perrenials, or annuals, such as impatiens. In the event that trying to grow turf is unsuccessful.

From: Benia <xsarenkax@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

I would suggest working with nature, rather than against it.  If turf grass doesn't prefer living under a giant oak tree, plant some native species under it that will do fine.  You'll not only make things easier for you, but you will be helping to diversify your ecosystem, keep a natural balance, and enhance the beauty of your property... all at once!

Benia

Bartlett, IL

From: Aunt Hilda <daveantcliff@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

I grew up with a HUGE Oak tree in the back yard. We lost grass due to leaving oak leaves in place for too long of a spell. If the leaves are blanketing the grass enough to block out any sunlight from reaching the grass, then the grass will die back due to a lack of sunlight 

From: frank lawrence <naturalimages11@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens

 

Only if they're so thick that you can't see the grass and then all is needed is a mowing over the leaves We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac --- On Wed, 3/21/12, Victoria <QueenofVictorian@aol.com> wrote: From: Victoria <QueenofVictorian@aol.com> Subject: [Native Gardening] Re: oak leaves and gardens To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2012, 1:14 PM   Good afternoon everyone, We have three large oak trees, now that our snow is all gone we have many oak leaves on the ground. We have been told that we must remove the oak leaves from the grass, or they will kill the grass, is this right? Thank you for your help. Victoria --- In nativegardening@yahoogroups.com, Michelle Vanstrom <VanShel400@...> wrote: > > I have mulch mowed mine ver fine and left them to decompose in the lawn. > > > > On Mar 13, 2012, at 1:01 PM, "PatriciaC" <pjclancy@...> wrote: > > > Are there situations where oak leaves would disrupt the soil balance? I know most of us are not lawn lovers, but for those who still want lawn, should the oak leaves be left on the grass? > > > > --- In nativegardening@yahoogroups.com, frank lawrence <naturalimages11@> wrote: > > > > > > Most of my yard I burn the leaves in place but one section where I have flagged several new seedlings of Spice Bushes, Black Haw Viburnums and Pagoda dogwoods, I just mowed all the oak leaves yesterday in place, no need to rake them. > > > > > > > > > We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. > > > Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/11/12, Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@> > > > Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] oak leaves and gardens > > > To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 2:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the input. I guess I'll try leaving them as they are, for now, and keeping an eye on things. > > > > > > > > > I checked on the monarda didyma this morning. It seemed undaunted: it had put out new leaves, which look pretty robust. Of course, monarda didyma is not easily daunted. > > > > > > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathleen Domenig > > > 2077 North Oak Lane > > > State College, Pennsylvania > > > USA > > > > > > > > > daytime telephone: 1-814-234-2150 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 10, 2012, at 8:40 PM, April Hughes wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could mulch mow them, like Michelle suggested, or you could just leave them be. Like you said, they don't mat, and the other plants will easily grow up through them. > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Michelle Vanstrom <VanShel400@> > > > To: "nativegardening@yahoogroups.com" <nativegardening@yahoogroups.com> > > > Cc: "nativegardening@yahoogroups.com" <nativegardening@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sat, March 10, 2012 6:00:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] oak leaves and gardens > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Mulch mow them right in place. Mulched leaves won't blow away and they break down faster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > A portion of my front garden is mostly planted in meadow flowers--rudbeckia, asclepias tuberosa, echinacea, and so on. Right now, it's covered with autumn-fallen oak leaves that I'd planned to rake out--but I'm wondering whether I could save myself the trouble. > > > > > > > > > Oak leaves don't break down very fast, but they don't mat, either. Can I count on the rudbeckia, et al., to grow up through them and conceal them, thus protecting me from the rancor of the neighbors while also allowing natural decomposition to feed the flowers and enrich the soil? > > > > > > > > > Someone has suggested raking them out, running a mower over them, and raking them back in--but I'm wondering whether I can even skip that step. > > > > > > > > > My goal is to have a largely self-sustaining garden. (OK, go ahead and laugh, though it's really unnecessary. There's been plenty of laughing at that idea already. ;-) > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any sugge stions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathleen Domenig > > > 2077 North Oak Lane > > > State College, Pennsylvania > > > USA > > > > > > > > > daytime telephone: 1-814-234-2150 > > > > > > > >

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