I typically agree Don but sometimes the end justifies the means and if you have a very large patch of Vinca, herbicides like Glyphosate if used properly can be a useful tool. As a Conservation contractor myself, I have to rely on such tools or I wouldn't be able to heal the hundreds of acres of land that I have in the past
We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
--- On Fri, 11/11/11, Don Zouras <dzouras@icode6.net> wrote:
From: Don Zouras <dzouras@icode6.net>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] [PA_wildflowers] periwinkle
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 3:03 PM
I feel compelled to chime in with my usual caution against purposely deploying poisons in our environment. I do not feel confident that something designed to kill all plants will not have any unintended side effects. I hand pulled my vinca and planted natives in the bare spots. There was some touch up pulling here and there, but the natives own that spot now... And I did not use one drop of poison. -Don
Bartlett, IL On Nov 11, 2011 2:39 PM, "Kathleen Domenig" < kmdomenig@mindspring.com> wrote: What about wildlife? Squirrels, chipmunks?
There is a goodly colony of chipmunks in the bank. I'm fond of those chipmunks, and wouldn't want to harm them. (I do have a few cross words for voles, from time to time.)
Kathleen Domenig State College, Pennsylvania USA On Nov 11, 2011, at 3:29 PM, frank lawrence wrote: Just go with the stronger formulation I suggested and do on a day where the temps are at around 50 degrees as below that, the stomatoes will be closed...also keep the spray away from any water source as Round Up will kill amphibians
We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
--- On Fri, 11/11/11, Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] [PA_wildflowers] periwinkle
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 10:15 AM
That's good to hear. I've used it in very isolated instances before, but never for a big patch like this.
Many thanks.
Kathleen Domenig State College, Pennsylvania USA On Nov 11, 2011, at 7:26 AM, frank lawrence wrote: That is correct. Round up is translocated through leaves and has no effect on soil
We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
--- On Thu, 11/10/11, Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Native Gardening] [PA_wildflowers] periwinkle
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 10, 2011, 5:48 PM
Oh, excellent point. Because it's evergreen, and the vegetation around it is not, it will only affect the vinca. Is that right?
Kathleen Domenig State College, Pennsylvania USA On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:56 PM, frank lawrence wrote: Its evergreen so you can spray it with Round Up in the winter when everything else is dormant. Mix your own formulation from concentrate, a 30% Round up to 70% water should do the trick....best to do it in late winter on a clear day in the 50's
We abuse the land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect. Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac
--- On Wed, 11/9/11, Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com> wrote:
From: Kathleen Domenig <kmdomenig@mindspring.com>
Subject: [Native Gardening] [PA_wildflowers] periwinkle
To: nativegardening@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 12:54 PM
In the midst of leaf raking today, I discovered that a patch of periwinkle (vinca minor, I think) has spread a great deal over the past summer and now clearly aspires to world domination. It was here when we bought the house, sixteen years ago, and to date it seemed willing to stay put, with a little discipline, lo these many years. Clearly, that's no longer the case.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the best or most effective way to contain it or get rid of it? Today I was pulling it out in great handfuls, but (a) it's a tough little so-and-so, and doesn't come easily and (b) I can see that I'm leaving a great deal behind.
Do I need to get in and hoe it out? I hate to get too destructive with the soil, especially because there are natives in the same bed.
When I am down to bare soil--which looks like where it's all going--is there a native that I could plant that might be especially good at suppressing the rogue vinca? It's a shady bank, so asarum canadense seems one possibility--it does spread and cover the ground so nicely. What else might be good?
Kathleen Domenig State College, Pennsylvania USA
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